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From“F*ck you”to“F*ck me”

The 5-minute practice for turning a fight into connection and chemistry.

We’re not promising you’ll solve the issue in five minutes. We’re going to show you how to change what the fight is doing in five minutes or less.

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The fight is not the problem. The fight is energy trying to go somewhere.

Your partner comes at you hot. Furious, hurt, accusing you of something that isn’t even fair.

Everything in you wants to defend. Explain. Correct the record. Go quiet. Fire back.

Every one of those moves sends the energy right back into the fight.

There is another option. It isn’t five communication tips. It’s one reorientation to what a fight actually is, and what to do with the heat while it’s still hot.

It takes both of you. It takes about five minutes.

What you get

One five-minute practice. A very different way through a fight.

A clear, fun, actually usable guide to what to do when one of you is pissed and you’d rather not spend the night as enemies.

No communication scripts. No ten-step conflict framework. Just one thing to try the next time shit gets hot.

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Inside page: There are two jobs
Inside page: Why five minutes?
The one thing to remember

When the fight gets hot, don’t shut down. Don’t armor up.

Heart on.

You don’t need less fire. You need to know what to do with it.

Ilya and Julia, black and white embrace
about five minutes later
Heart on · heart on · heart on · heart on ·

We use this on each other.

We’re Ilya & Julia.

Fifteen years together. Twenty-five combined years as therapists. And fights that made absolutely no fucking sense for two people who knew all the tools.

What finally changed our marriage wasn’t becoming calmer, nicer or less intense.

It was learning what to do with all that intensity when it showed up.

This guide gives you one of the simplest things we actually use.

Stopwastingthe fire.

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From “F*ck you” to “F*ck me.”

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